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    January 12

    Prince Harry condemned for 'racist' remark

     
     
    What's happening?
     
    Like grandfather, like grandson: Prince Harry is following in the footsteps of his gaffe-prone grandfather, Prince Philip, by putting his foot firmly in his mouth – again. Harry is under fire from political and religious groups for referring to an Asian army colleague as a ‘Paki’. Video footage of the remark, shot in 2006, was published online last week by the News of the World. The word is a derogatory term for an immigrant or descendant of an immigrant from Pakistan and the young royal’s remark has provoked widespread condemnation.
     
    What are people saying?
     
    Harry has since apologised, insisting no malice was intended. David Cameron, the first senior politician to comment, stressed the importance of “rooting out” such attitudes in Britain’s “great institutions”, but said no further disciplinary action was needed – a sentiment echoed by Gordon Brown and Nick Clegg. The Muslim Council of Britain, a moderate group, said the Prince had done the right thing by saying sorry: “In the big scheme of things, there are more important issues that we should be discussing, not least the carnage in Gaza,” a spokesman told Reuters. The Equalities and Human Rights Commission, an independent body set up to help eliminate discrimination, told MSN: "These appear to be disturbing allegations and we will be asking the MoD to see the evidence, share that evidence with us and their plans for dealing with it. We will then consider what further action might be necessary."
     
    Why should we give a damn?
     
    What constitutes an offensive word is now the subject of reinvigorated debate. If terms such as ‘Brit’ and ‘Aussie’ are acceptable, why is ‘Paki’ not? Because, argues Murad Ahmed in the Times, the term comes from a different era, when it was used by racists to communicate violence and intimidation. Harry’s latest misdemeanour (since 2004, the son of the heir to the throne has traded blows with a paparazzi photographer and been criticised for wearing a Swastika to a friend’s fancy dress party) has also called into question the merits of a hereditary monarchy: are we expecting too much of boys from a broken home, forced into unsuitable boarding schools and “living their lives under a media microscope”, asks Guardian columnist Peter Preston.

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    Davidwrote:
    ok, boys and girls... 3573 people have flipped out about this on one single blog... let he who has never sinned throw the first stone... who hasn't dropped a rude comment about someone of a different nationality, creed, race, etc.??? It may not be nice, but let's be honest, everyone says something rude about someone else... 3,573 people got really rapped up over this, is it REALLY that serious, in the big picture??
    May 16
    Sheesh....(shakes head)........OMG......I didn't realize that Janine was that much in need of a high colonic. That a colon cleanser just incase you didn't know that. Look, there is a difference between a racial slur and a shortened name of someone's country of origin. My husband is Turkish.......they are called Turks. You are Brittish but are called Brits. Austrailians are called Aussies. We Americans are often referred to as Yanks and according to your dumb standards, that would be more of a racial slur because Yank certainly isn't a shortened from of American in any shape or form. I say so what. Oh yeah, let's not forget about Fins, Pols, Dutch, Afgani's, Jews etc. If the world tries to get any more politically correct, I think I'll puke. Oh yeah, before I go, your personal opinion of your royal family and other views, certainly don't have anything to do with the thread and just a hint, only the limited intellect has to resort to the use of vulgar language to express themselves. *Even if you do use *** to try and mask your limitations. ;-) Oh yes and for the record hun, I'm from America and we have a lot of different people and creeds here. St. Louis is a big place.
    May 9
    Janinewrote:
    And oh yeah, if you say "nigga" or "spigger" or "spik" or whatever to your friends its obviously NOT going to be taken in a racist manner because they are your friends, so whoever said saying racist words to your friends its obviously not as its taken in humour not in hate. So please, people need to seriously have a think about what the f**k there posting on this blog because they have NOT got a clue what they are talking about.
    Apr. 24
    Janinewrote:
    To the idiot that posted below, i think you will find "paki" is a racist term and if reported to the police you can be arrested for racism or if the police hear you say it. You obviously dont have many of them in your country. I dont believe that it was blown out of proportion that Prince Harry said it, i think it should have been taken as seriously as if any other person had said it, i mean just because hes royalty why should he be any different then again our queen is half german so nothing surprises me how amazing deranged this country is being run. And being called a Brit or a Yank is hardly the same as being called a "paki", you would be surprised what a "paki" would do to you if you called them a "paki". And to the "marii-x" person underneath this idiot your as stupid as you type, how is wag1 racist you fool it means whats going on.. so you obviously haven't spoke to any black people recently, maybe you should and get some advice, and it also seems that the only person talking any sense on this blog is Alistair Maiden he got it down to a "T". Muslims come to england uk hating us british and the goverment wonder why, we've blown up there countrys killed there families and children and they wonder why they want to blow us the hell up, i would. But back to the Prince Harry shit, something should have been done i dont care if hes part of the royal family there f***ing useless anyway.
    Apr. 24
    Hi to Pam E.-B. from Clacton! Tanya/Barb from the USA here. I've been reading this thread about Prince Harry's verbal boo boo and I have this question which was asked by one of your historical figures.....'What's in a name"?

    Really people, to make such a big deal of this is really quite sad. The only reason such a big deal has been made about this is due to Prince Harry's station in life, he is held to higher ideals than the rest of us. Now I will agree that his statement was perhaps not tasteful due to his station in life, but to be branded RACIST is just plain stupid. As anyone who has half a brain would realise that "Paki" is just a shortend term. To those of you who are most upset, I would believe that you have little military experience, have not traveled much from your little corner of the world or just want to have something to bitch and moan about. Get real, most of my fellow countrymen call British folks, Brits. You folks from the UK call us Yanks. etc.

    Now a racial slur is when you use a negative term to describe people from others countries such as "Ragheads, sandni**ers, spics, wetbacks etc.", but to use a shortened term for their country of origin and calling it racist is just plain ignorant.

    Oh well, a little tune is playing in my head and it goes something like this...."I say potato (pa-tate-tow), You say (pa-tot-tow), I say tomato (ta-mate-tow), You say (ta-mot-tow). (pa-tate-tow), (pa-tot-tow)-(ta-mate-tow), (ta-mot-tow).....Let's call the whole thing off!
    Feb. 19
    Marii- xwrote:
    Paki Is NOT Racist, Bluddy Grow Up!

    Im A PAKI OoOoO

    Seriouslyy,, Some People Grow Up, Its Jus A Shortened Way.
    Anything Else yeah I Could Of Understood, But Flipping Hell Is There Seriouslyy Anyone Who Thinks Think Should Be Made Into A Big Issue.

    Okay, Im 15, I Go To High School In The UK.
    Right, Saying The Word Paki Is Offensive, How About, When They Say There Proud To Be Who They Are And Then They Wear Thier Jeans Down To There Knees, Isnt That What 'black people' Do?
    That Apply To Everyone. Or When They Say The Word 'Nigga'. Yes In A Racist Way, Yet They Go And Say 'wag1'? Well Isnt That What Balck People Say, Yes The Same Colour People Everyones Always Being Racist About, Saying Thier Slaves ... blah blah blah..

    Basicaly, Im A Paki, I Dont Give A Shit. If Anyone Does, Id LOVE TO Talk To Them, Id Love To Hear What They Have To Say.

    (:

    Peace Outt

    (Y)
    Feb. 16
    David Reeveswrote:
    It would be a better place to live if we all got on, put the weapons down, and help each other, for the sake of our chilldren.
    Peace on earth, Much love going out to all of you.
    As for the little Princes, and the Royal's where did yo get the balls to wear the medels you have never ever earned?
    Feb. 1
    Michael Richards Court Speech

    Makes one stop and think after reading this:

    Michael Richards is better known as Kramer from tv's Seinfeld series.
    This was his defence speech in court after making racial comments in his comedy act.
    He makes some very interesting points. He said :

    I'm proud To Be White
    Someone finally said it.
    How many are actually paying attention to this ?
    There are African Americans, Mexican Americans,
    Asian Americans, Arab Americans, etc.
    And then there are just Americans.
    You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.
    You Call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey,'
    'Whitey,' 'Caveman' ... and that's OK.

    But when I call you, Nigger, Kike, Towel head,
    Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner , Gook, or Chink .
    You call me a racist.
    You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you,
    so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live ?
    You have the United Negro College Fund.
    You have Martin Luther King Day.
    You have Black History Month.
    You have Cesar Chavez Day.
    You have Yom Hashoah.
    You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.
    You have the NAACP.
    You have BET.
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    If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists.
    If we had White History Month , we'd be racists.
    If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance'
    OUR lives we'd be racists.
    We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce.
    Wonder who pays for that ?

    A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant,
    but any color can be in the Miss America pageant. If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships you know we'd be racists. There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US . Yet if there were 'White colleges' THAT would be a racist college.

    In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights,
    you would call us racists. You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it.
    But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.

    You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us.
    But , when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or
    beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a
    threat to society, you call him a racist.
    I am proud.
    But you call me a racist.
    Why is it that only whites can be racists ?

    There is nothing improper about this e-mail.

    Let's see which of you are proud enough to send it on

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    Jan. 20
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    Jan. 20
    Roywrote:
    It seems this debate has ground to a natural halt, signing off
    Jan. 19