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    October 01

    David Cameron's speech: the verdict

    Posted by Laura Snook, senior news editor
     
    David Cameron (Image © PA)
     
    What's happening:
     
    The party conference season is coming to an end now that David Cameron, 'a man with a plan', has delievered his speech to the Tories. He did indeed talk tough on the economy, as was promised earlier, but he admitted he had "no miracle cure." His first priority as prime minister? To rein in government borrowing and spending, not to cut taxes.
     
    What people are saying:
     
    One Tory member, a teenaged boy in school uniform, said afterwards: "The anti-Labour rhetoric was kept to a minimum which was good." The BBC's Justin Parkinson says: "Mr Cameron's speech was long and largely serious, in a conscious attempt not to appear triumphalist given the country's current difficulties." "Hardly a bravura performance", writes Michael Kettle in the Guardian. Oliver Letwin, Conservative policy director, told politics.co.uk: "I think it was an enormously powerful speech. With a combination of power and charm he showed balance, maturity, clarity of judgement and character. He also nailed the point that Gordon Brown's experience is exactly the kind of experience we don't want to repeat." Not a word about it on Labour's website yet.
     
    Why we should give a damn:
     
    David Cameron's key message today was that the Conservatives have “passed the test” and are ready to lead Britain through the global financial crisis and back to prosperity, but what do you think? Are they ready to take Number 10? How do you think he did today? Better or worse than Brown? Did you prefer last year's 'unplugged performance'?
     

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    13 Nov.
    Williamwrote:
    David Cameron like all the Politians failed to tell us
    1 That Bank & Company Directors should be sacked and all Bonuses repaid for not telling us the truth about the fainancial position of their Companies .
    The Directors of NORTHERN ROCK FOR INSTANCE knew or should have kown that they were taking on advances they could not cover.
    Similarly ALL the directors of banks and companies should know what is happening in their companies and to do this work properly they should not be Directors of several Companies.
    gORDON bROWN IS JUST AS BAD ,HE NEVER ONCE BALANCED HIS BUDGET while Chancellor but buid  up a Hugh debt to the WORLD BANK and he goes on and on telling us NONSENCE.
    wHEN WILL THE PUBLIC WAKE UP AND GIVE HIM"HIS CARDS"And Cameron so far is omly "pandying to the Public
    Grandad Bill.
    17 Oct.
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    (no name) wrote:
    the trouble i've got with you david is you look the part, and you can carry a tune, but........but........I just don't know if you have the x-factor
    8 Oct.
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    ronaldo wrote:

    Hahaha

    Seeing people blame Labour for the rise in crime/yobs/drugs etc is hilarious.

    Overall knife crime is down sine the 90s FACT.

    Most of the people who vote for Conservatives down have to live with the crime and drug addicts on a daily basis and are just judging reality on the newspaper hypes and cooked up stats.

    Cameron talks of a broken society...

    Does he not then realise that the some of the children of the working class family, which was savaged by the last Tory government, are now grown up and causing these problems?

    Tories planted the seed of destruction.

    3 Oct.
    No namewrote:

    I left this out if my last comment before.

    You would think that someone who wants to be PM would be keeping an eye on these global affairs.

    He says he cares about people?

    His non-intervention means one of only three possibilities...

    1) He didnt know anything about the impending financial crisis before hand which I think means he's spending all his time and money on his silly photo ops etc rather than looking into the problems of the country he is so desperate to "fix" and not doing any research into what problems he'll have to tackle if he wins the election

    2) He knew what was gonna happen and let innocent home buyers he "cares about" suffer for the sake of politics 

    3) he's not interested... his friends all work in the city and he didnt want to make them look bad. 

    3 Oct.
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    ronald wrote:

    It's great how some people seem to know that Brown is "useless" at his job as PM and as Chancellor. I admire your ability to see so well through the iron veil of your own insignificance in these global financial matters. I'm sure that these few newspaper reports and scare mongering news channel headlines are giving you ample information on the decisions this guy has to make on a  the day-to-day basis that you can evaluate his performance. 

    Financial service sector is responsible for most of Britains GDP. Given that fact I think that a few billions wiped of the Balance Sheets of  a few over inflated - and lets not forget dividend paying - GLOBAL banks is a small price to pay to avert any more meyhem like that of the recent oil price fluxuations.

    These bubbles have to burst. Fact. Its just like the way we have a leap year every four years. There is always some sort of crisis after a boom that stabalises everything.  It's just a pity that the fat cats used innocent mortgage buyers as pawns in their elaborate plans lolol.

    All this talk of David Cameron being the best man for the job... :-S

    In my opinion the Tories are the same old elitist egotistical ex-schoolfriends that the party will always encompass. Their parties only look after their own inner circle as always - not saying that Labour doesn't but it's to nowhere near the same degree.

    Cameron doesnt seem to have any sound policies. He just seems to interject with would haves and could haves after whatever headline is in the paper.

    "Hug a hoody" anyone?

    And that bike being stolen stunt... :-S

    I've seen pictures of that toff sweeping leaves of the steps of a derelict house... Yeah right.

    At least GB isn't a vampire who insults people's intelligence with his blatantly false persona and concern.

    i'm just rambling here but thats my thoughts anyway.

    3 Oct.
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    Morgo444 wrote:
    Copy 'no name at 17:44 Oct 2'
     
    The most sensible comments made so far.  Brown speech - Cameron speech > all words, wheres the action....well obviously non yet but I find it hard to believe that people are swayed on speeches..get a grip.... the worlds economy is in ruins and is bound to get worse... whether Tories or Labour in power there would have been little to avert the situation as it was out of the UKs hand. As for the other monumental cock ups we have witnessed under Labours reign, dont you think the Tories would have logged their own list of wrong moves over the past ten years had they been our govenring party?.  Our countrys NHS is to be admired - why hasnt it been copied one logger says - do you realise how long the infrastructure would take and how many billions a year it costs to run....I know its not nice if you have an acute illness and you have to wait for treatment but go elsewhere and realise how great the NHS is.......Jeez Louise.......  the country needs to move forward as one, the economy is not a chess piece, its the only one we have so a group approach is required.....and then - if they really must - the slagging off of Mr Browns 10p tax blunder and the old news of privatisation can be brought out once again...... zzzzzzzzzz..........its a negative view but having been brought up in a socialist household during the 80's and seen both sides of the political fence, i have a very sore bum from sitting fairly and squarely on that fence for some time.......it still drives Mum mad when i provide her with middle of the road views....hahaha.
    3 Oct.
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    VeeJay wrote:
     
     
    Best speech we have heard from Cameron. like everyone we talk to we don't understand how labour can still be in power .
    He will make a great priminister . Brown must go !.. the entire worlds watching us and seeing what labour is doing to our beautiful Britain . Roll on the next general election. Scap the idea of I.D cards and spend the money where needed . i.e police . NHS and the poor . they are not needed don't the government think we have enough security  now with fingerprints .driving licence photo's and more camera's than anywhere else in the world . Let the police do their job without the goverment trying to do it for them .
     
    David Cameron will certainly get my famiies vote and lots of my friends he talks common sense and his family values are just what we need back in this country .
    3 Oct.
    ceeswrote:
    What I cannot work out is that how come labour are still in power, we are the most spied upon nation in the Western world, with our so called "safety" cameras. We have the highest taxes in the Western world, we have the highest teenage pregnancies in Western Europe, our education system is shamefull, we have an open door policy as regards immigrants, and I am one myself. The government has no common sense whatsoever, in this country political correctness has gone mad. Talk about the NHS, labour keeps telling us that he NHS is the envy of the world, if the world is so envious of our NHS, why has noone copied it?
    We are in Iraq and Afghanistan for God knows what reason, and all this thanks to Gordon and Tony, and now when the chickens have come home to roost, Mr Brown says he will fix it. It largely thanks to him that we are in this mess, he sold off half the gold reserves of the UK as soon as he came into power, and now gold has trebled in price, he robbed Billions from the pensions funds for the first 5 years and went on a spending/wasting spree, and taxed everyone up to the hilt.
    Gordon, labour will wreck this country and ordinary hard working people, who have a 9 to 5 mondane job will end up footing the bill for his incompetence.
    I did not hear David cameron's speech, but he will get my vote, because what I have heard from davis cameron is that he talks common sense. 
    3 Oct.
    No namewrote:
    Brionne
     I watched the speech, it will not make me vote conservative, neither will Boris Johnson's bad manners toa respected public servant. Hooray Henry ? look no further .
    3 Oct.
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    Terry Henderson wrote:
    The trouble with Labour is they have been looking abroad to find new part-time partners against the interests of their family; the British people
     
    They have a partner that lets the other travel and roam and whom hope will one day have their roaming partner get her/his head together and think of the family, or when the crunch comes will walk away to the shock of everyone.
     
    Then the sour grapes and evil will start and the victim shall be called as the wrongdoer, often alibi's that are bent from fixed agenda people will ensure the knife is going in their back the moment of a divorce.
     
    I feel I have let Brown have the romance and the self-folly and I will ensure my vote will never go the Labour way again.
     
    I see that it ought be fit that failed politicians like Brown that used the deceit lover's cheap tricks, as way of the European vote he promised then denied - politics ought be about honesty and like the Works and Pensions free-loader James Purnell, whom was in an hospital group photo when he was never there - he has deceived and the pair of pretenders ought go with the others that have deceived Britain for eleven years. I think Labour will never again have control and we need the wind of change that Cameron is, and whom sets his own agenda - unlike a stand in Prime Minister whom goes to the finale of the Olympic Games in China after it is safe and there are no comebacks against the Chinese and can pounce on the feel good factor of few sports that did well out of the National Lottery - Labour have blown their safety net and their turkeys of arrogance are coming home to roost for them. EOS
    2 Oct.
     
    How stupid do we, the electorate look? The unfettered excesses of the market need regulation and Mr Cameron tries to pitch himself as the one to reign in these excesses. Just as we'd be green to think they're Green, sick to think they care about the NHS, ignorant to think that they care about state education, so we'd be intellectually bankrupt to believe they want to regulate the city fat cats that fund their party. It's rich to think that David Cameron's Conservative Party are anything other than the party of the rich. He may be personable, pretty and politicallly astute but he'll never get my vote.
    2 Oct.
    I do remember when the Conservatives came into power on May 5, 1979 at the age of 15 growing up in the East End of London that they are the party of deregulation and privatization started by Margaret Thatcher who was very honest on their policies.
    David Cameron is not very honest that is the difference also they are the party of racism and injustice supported intolerance also under the Conservative Government of John Major they never bothered to call for the inquiry into the racist murder of Stephen Lawrence who was killed by 5 white racist thugs also they do not support fairness with justice. If the Conservatives are elected I am emigrating to the USA for good also was able to completed my university education in 1999 with a degree in Third World Studies with Geography.
    2 Oct.
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    (no name) wrote:
    no matter how much david cameron and his henchmen try to pull the wool over the public,s eyes they are still the same old hooray henry,s that they always were and always will be. not in our real world just in their own cosseted and pampered ivory castles.
    2 Oct.
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    British and European wrote:
    The UK is a tiny country, relatively speaking, especialy when comes to our currency being buffeted around.  I am British, white, and born and bred here - and ashamed of the small minded jingoistic stuff I am reading. 
     
    We have an independent currency, but one which is oscillating around like mad against the big boys and really doesn't seem to represent as solid a rock to build our economy on as one would like.  When one travels the world as bit, for example to anywhere outside of Europe, all you ever hear about from people in the street is the dollar and the euro, never sterling, and as far as I can see the euro increasingly appears to be becoming more desirable than the dollar, both as something to own and something to put one's trust in.  Whether or not one likes it, that is the way things appear to be going.  While I like the Queen very much, I would be happy to see her face on a Euro bank note - money is money, whatever it is called, along as it is worth what it says on the front.  The UK, whether under New Labour or Conservatives, is destined to be a small sideshow if we don't face up to this, and as things are the Scots, for example, may leave the UK if we don't face up to the fact that they are rather more Europhile than the English tend to be.  Jingoism is no substitute for comon sense and collective strength.
     
    While I see much to admire in Thatcherism, I also see much to admire in having a decent and affordable welfare state (anyone who doubts this should try accessing health care in Florida or Singapore without having taken specific steps with respect to health insurance in advance, and try getting old and needy in the USA without having put aside an enormous barrel load of cash, which at the moment might not be worth too much anyway if the (alleged) greedy gits at Lehman brothers and their pals had got their (allegedly) selfish mits on it).  OK, we do need to ensure that all who use our NHS and other support services are doing so appropriately and fairly, but I would rather have a group of hard-working Poles and Hong Kong Chinese here in the UK working and paying taxes, while I would be happy if it were to be possible to kick out those of our native born sons and daughters who are chronically infected with the ethos of sponging. 
     
    As I get older I see that Labour/Tory/Labour is rather like George Orwell's pigs - as time goes by it is difficult to tell the difference between the socialistsand the capitalists.  I don't think Cameron has all the answers and I don't think Brown is useless - having said that, I wouldn't mind Cameron being in power as I don't think he will make a lot of difference, and at least those who thought he might may be obliged to re-think.  Oh how I wish anarchy was a viable option!
     
     
     
     
     
     
    2 Oct.
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    CorkinCues wrote:
    No Name at 10-58 : You are saying the same as me. I just copied the info at the top from someone else whilst I was writing my reply and forgot to delete it before posting. This not being a forum there is no way to edit it out after. lol

    Just to set the record straight. I am british born and bread (English if we want to get pedantic.) My wife is Portuguese and was an economic migrant. I DO want our borders closed. I DO want the UK out of europe. I DO want EU nationals and non EU nationals alike to have to apply for work permits and Visas before they are permitted to reside in the UK and then only if they have the skills to fill the gaps we have in our job market, not to work in the factories and the fields as we have plenty of lazy Oafs that should be shoehorned into taking these jobs. If they don't like these jobs then they should better themselves to move upward rather than not doing anything.

    I am another Maggie supporter, not from when she got carried away towards the end but from when she took over. She made some incredibly hard decisions which were inevitable not liked by the people who cannot see through the fog BUT the country went from bankrupt and on its knees to respected and a world power again by the end of the nineties. If it weren't for her we would not have survived the early nineties recession at all.

    And it looks like the Tories are already doing what needs to be done. I see Boris has been chairman of the Met for 1 day and Ian Blair is gone. Something that his namesake and Broon didn't dare to do.

    AC
    2 Oct.
    The comments on this page make me laugh!! When are you people going to realise that Labour and Conservative are all as bad as each other. When things go bad - as they have recently - there is this typical 'knee-jerk' reaction to blame the current government for all the world's woes (although, in reality, they have very little influence or control over global events).

    The solution to this is - and a consequence of the original 'knee-jerk'  is merely to vote in the other lot. This mistake was oft repeated in the 1960s and 1970s and was an unmitigated disaster. The other lot can do nothing about the immense world crises that are now overwhelming us all. So, no doubt in around six or seven years, you will all be blaming Cameron for unemployment having risen to 5 million. However, you will merely have played into their hands by once again by taking your eye 'off the ball' - something, incidentally, that our politicians spend a great deal of time and energy in helping you to do!!

    The current crisis in the financial markets shows a failure of the capitalist system with much the same impact in which communism was exposed in the Soviet Union in the 1980s. In effect, neither system works very weel and both are deeply flawed. Instead of this whining and bickering about how Gordon Brown has ruined the economy and how Margaret Thatcher was a complete fascist, can we not find the maturity and intelligence in this country to begin the long overdue debate about how we move forward from the current situation in an inclusive way that creates a fairer society for all.
    2 Oct.
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    Patriot wrote:
    In 1979 Mrs Thatcher said,
    "There has never yet been a Labour Government which hasn't quickly run out of other peoples money to spend". Can't fault that can we !
    Blair appointed a Minister to sort out the DHSS and to "think the unthinkable". Result - none, they sacked him for telling the truth.
    Brown's party speech - "Trust me". In what exactly ?. Brown cares even less for the country than Blair did, and in a mind numbing statement spoke of the next ten years under Labour. Doesn't the fool realise that if he is in power for even another two years the
    "Government" won't be paid (along with millions of others) because there IS NO MONEY.
    We need to get out of Europe, we need to address through the courts the folly of people who bring down a country simply to stay in power, and we need to start hanging traitors again, and don't think of getting me started on the "rights of sub-humans" - oops, "the human rights bill  !!!!
     
    2 Oct.

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