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    March 30

    Porn claim reignites MPs' expenses row

    (Image © PA)
     
    What’s happening?
     
    Home Secretary Jacqui Smith, a seasoned crusader against the sex industry, has apologised after mistakenly claiming the cost of two pornographic movies on her parliamentary expenses. The pay-per-view films were watched by her husband, Richard Timney, at the family home while Smith was away. The humiliating revelation not only threatens to undermine her authority, but has called into fresh question exactly what MPs should be claiming for at taxpayers’ expense.
     
    What are people saying?
     
    Conservative leader David Cameron described the incident as “deeply embarrassing”, but stopped short of calling for Smith’s resignation (to do so would invite closer scrutiny of the Tories’ own expense claims). Prime Minister Gordon Brown rose to Smith’s defence in a Downing Street press conference: “The Home Secretary is doing a great job and I do not think this issue should be allowed to detract from everything she is doing to ensure we protect the public and keep our neighbourhoods safe.”

    Why should we give a damn?
     
    British taxpayers are becoming increasingly angry at the secrecy surrounding MPs’ expenses.  In recent years, several MPs have fallen foul of Whitehall’s sleaze watchdogs for alleged expense-fiddling. Tory MP Derek Conway was suspended from the Commons in 2008 for paying his son too much from parliamentary allowances and the ‘John Lewis List’ caused a public outcry when it was released under the Freedom of Information Act. Only last week Brown ordered the Committee on Standards in Public Life to launch a review of the whole system of parliamentary pay and allowances, but it’s unlikely to report before the general election. Cameron today urged the prime minister to speed up the review, due to start in September, calling for “complete transparency” in relation to claims made by MPs.
     
    Your thoughts?
     
    P.S. On a slightly less serious note, which films do you think Smith’s husband was watching? Tongue-in-cheek title suggestions welcomed (but please remember this is a family-friendly news blog!)...
     

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    People,the masses,need to stand up and unite against this fascist dictatorship which is rife throughout the world but is colourfully represented as democracy..what a load of old rubbish.
    I fear for our future.
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    the reason the police dont act is as mentioned below they work for the governments and by default the military-industrial complex. therefore it is the agenda of police forces to protect the status quo. the individually officers are good people for the most part but you only need to control the top few people of an orginizaion to dominate the whole. just look at our government for an example of this. the elected officals answer to these groups. you should reasearch the Bilderburg group for information on their activitys.

    also consider all the advanced technologies that exist but are kept out of public knowledge and mainstream culture. examples include solar power. a free, clean renewable enegry source. why dont they use this technology? the answer is obvious, if people have access to it they will lose control over the peoples and of course lose money. the banks are the same deal.

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    Beawrote:
    Very articulately put Lion. I am sick to the back teeth of 'THE NEW WORLD ORDER' as they call themselves. We are the mugs who are indoctrinated,manipulated,conditioned and controlled by the powers that be. Most follow acceptingly like sheep,the few who show resistance are ostricized and falsely represented as troublemakers and anarchists.
    People,the masses,need to stand up and unite against this fascist dictatorship which is rife throughout the world but is colourfully represented as democracy..what a load of old rubbish.
    I fear for our future.
    5 days ago
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    you should all understand that the governments of the world are working and under the illegal, unelected authority of the military-industrial complex. made up of military forces industrial centres and all financal institutions along with coperate conglumarates. they set the legislation for the governments to fit in with their agenda. we have know this since 1948. in british law we have no bill of rights and no freedom of information act. [made some headway on that one recently] thus the expenses fiasco was revealed.

    the reason the police dont act is as mentioned below they work for the governments and by default the military-industrial complex. therefore it is the agenda of police forces to protect the status quo. the individually officers are good people for the most part but you only need to control the top few people of an orginizaion to dominate the whole. just look at our government for an example of this. the elected officals answer to these groups. you should reasearch the Bilderburg group for information on their activitys.

    also consider all the advanced technologies that exist but are kept out of public knowledge and mainstream culture. examples include solar power. a free, clean renewable enegry source. why dont they use this technology? the answer is obvious, if people have access to it they will lose control over the peoples and of course lose money. the banks are the same deal.

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    Beawrote:
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    I fear for our future.
    June 6
    Lionwrote:
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    jameswrote:
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    June 1
    Beawrote:
    These pompous self righteous people disgust me.
    Why also do these people have a choice to step down and when to do it? They should be sacked immediately!! not given an option for goodness sakes.
    Why are these people not being prosecuted? WHY? Where are the police?

    If old Jo public were caught embezzling and committing fraud,they would be locked up and the heavy hand of the law would be down on them like a tonne of bricks.

    Why are the police stalling? Are they being paid backhanders NOT to prosecute?
    It would not surprise me,they are employees of the Government after all,you scratch my back,i'll scratch yours old boys club. Corruption,dishonesty and greed of the highest level seeping like a disease from the top to the bottom. They are all liars.
    Absolutely disgraceful!!
    May 31
    JAKEwrote:
    Why does TONY BLAIR have armed police outside his house at TAX PAYERS EXPENSE????????????????
    May 31
    Jwrote:
    it's a case of "don't do as i do do as i tell you" of course she should be sacked. JamesH
    May 27
    Lionwrote:
    long ago during the Napoleonic Wars there was a family in england call the Rothchilds. they were stock brokers and money lenders. to facilitate their business they made use of a massive and comprehansive system of spys and agents as well as the more traditional so called legal ways. they were informed of the defeat of Napoleon in waterloo a full 12 hours before the offical envoys reached englands shores. they used this infomation to cause a stock market crash by reporting Napoleon had won and would invade. shares crashed and the Rothchild family baught up every thing. ultimatly they governments of the day were put in a position to borrow money they could never pay back because of the massive interest. when the debt collecters came and asked for their money the government couldnt pay. thats why the national insurance/social security was made giving each new born human child a number for the purpose of being used as colateral against the debt. even today we pay for the debt. we are born into it as individuals and as a people. we generate their money and then we pay extra on top and on and on and on. when world war I and II happened these familys bankrolled both sides.


    i could just go on all day and night about the crimes of these groups over centuries. alot of it is there if you do a little work and research the subjects. there is countless interviews with experts and normal peope on record. i invite you to find out for yourself. get involved with your council, attend meetings, make your voice heard where it matters. dont just have a rant then relax and go back to working. i feel like im being forced to live as a financal slave even before i knew why. ignorance is our greatest enemy.
    May 26
    Lionwrote:
    there are counting on YOU doing NOTHING. that way they will win. meaning they will achive their nefarious goals.
    May 26
    Lionwrote:
    those people are part of a criminal cyndicate. incrementalisim is what the government are all about. another point to the post below, to my understanding obama has kept the same officials as bush, all of them are from banks and financial firms and so on. obama takes no other council exept advice from the money lenders.

    look at cameron hes admitting every thing indirectly and telling us what we want to hear heres a quote from his office [http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/article.aspx?cp-documentid=147566489 ] "Renewing his calls for an immediate General Election, he said the party would "seriously consider" whether the UK should move to fixed-term parliaments - removing the power of the prime minister to decide the date." this is tipical lip service. they havent commited to a damn thing but to maybe think about considering it one day. bastards. please people just wake up. look at whats going on and where we are going. dna based ID cards, cars being tracked on the grid. a world bank. a carbon tax. a new world order.


    May 26
    No namewrote:
    I am half Yank half English. My heart is in England. The British are awesome people. Over the years of visiting family in the UK it never ceased to amaze me just how exhausted people looked...stressed out too. The Brits get taxed to death! Now this financial-political disaster w/ the MP's is just another SERIOUS slap in the face of the English. When is enough going to be ENOUGH? I really hope and encourage the British to kick some Political Arse there and make the changes happen.
    After the disaster and embarrassment of G. W. Bush Americans made a huge statement by electing Barack Obama. And then it became known of all the Democratic politicans who owed thousands of dollars in back taxes. Plus the number of politicans who had hired illegal immigrants!
    Politics is dirty business no matter what. Without the People....there isn't a government. The People must take their country back and demand transparency and accountability! If the average English citizen "screwed" the government they would end up in prison or at the very least in deep trouble. But the MP's are saying they are sorry and that should be enough. Really?
    England is a proud and awesome country. And the British are able to fix this issue if they truly want.
    Remember.....The squeaky wheel gets oiled first!
    May 25
    Mickywrote:
    I don't know what all the row is about pornography all I can see is that porn is good for the soul better if you can get others to pay for it. I had a Chinese take away on Saturday night rather expensive now if I could only get someone to pay for her.
    May 25
    Mickywrote:
    To think I have to buy my own porn dvd's, become a minister and get everyone to pay for them. Personally I think get rid of all of them they are doing no good what so ever. I think they are totally laughable and I don't think I could take anything seriously in Great Britain again.
    May 25
    janewrote:
    It is appalling and, YES, British people should take to the streets of London en masse. This is more important that the Countryside Alliance or even G20 because this is our taxes that are being misappropriated. I work in the para-legal system and I assure you if you or I used those excuses when committing fraud, we would be imprisoned. I sincerely hope there are prosecutions and personally I would start with Hazel Blears and Geoff Hoon. We have treated abysmally and contemptuously by those elected to represent our interests. Does anyone else think Gordon Brown is anti English. He has done everything in his power to destroy the country and would like to change the constitution. Would someone remind him that the Queen is known for her frugality and pays her taxes. In addition, her Government send her all over the world with a begging bowl as no-one would trust our politicians. Prince Charles pays taxes and the Duchy of Cornwall is a significant employer, not to mention the Princes Trust. What have our sponging politicians done for any of us.
    May 24